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And doesn't prevent them, then we ought to be going for that one in $3. and we ought to do it not by creating a whole bunch of new government programs but by creating an incentive to reward people. in your new bill, you have good fraud programs, but you lack the biggest thing to do. the biggest thing on fraud is to have undercover patients. so that people no we're checking on whether or not this is a legitimate bill. and you don't know who's an undercover patient and who's not. all of a sudden, you start changing your attitude of whether or not you're going to milk medicare or you're going to ...

People. in your new bill you have good fraud programs, but you lack the biggest thing to do. the biggest thing on fraud is to have undercovered patients so that people know we're checking on whether or not this is a legitimate bill. and you don't know who's an undercover patient and who's not. and all of a sudden you start changing your attitude of whether or not you're going to milk medicare or you're going to milk medicaid. >> mr. president, if i could just say, i'm not an expert on much, but i am filibusters. and we've got 40 members of congress here. >> tom, you made some powerful points. ...