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The republicans who are trying to organize themselves into groups which are really analogous to the outside groups that have been helping the democrats and helping president obama try to keep his campaign energy going. >> that's right. it's more than that. one of the groups here, the american action network, founded by fred mallic and norm coleman. they say this is sort of copy, sort of a conservative analog to the left leading group run by john podesta. >> well, one wonders whether he gave them the secrets of the temple or not. coming up, more of my interview with general petraeus. what he ...

Mccain heart beat away from the presidency? >> i think they mean it in the reading rainbow, you can be anything you want sense. this is something that's said about palin every six months or so. let's say she wants to become a spokesman for energy and bones up on that again. she never really does it. they mean this as a compliment. if she wants to, she can talk about anything, learn anything. >> and is she now able to assemble this little school program for herself, tuition free? are republican advisers in washington eager to lend their expertise and time to her for no money? >> not really. not...