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Is it a human being, preferably yourself or a loved one, or is it a corporation? if it's a corporation, they cook badly. >> at a restaurant they may not use high quality food but they also bury it with salt and sugar. >> talking about fast food mostly. processed foods you find. home meal replacements in supermarke supermarkets. buy cheap ingredients, dress them up with fat, salt, sugar which cover up a lot of sins and use additives to make it look fresh because it stays on the shelf, a freezer case for a year. additives are a problem. the salt, fat, sugar is a problem. you would never cook tha...

Testing on those to meet those standards. they had to come as close to meeting the standard of the new york style bagel as possible. none of them did. so truth told, none did, but they came as close as -- we tested 12 supermarket bagels and a fast food bagel. this is costco store brand bagel. >> rick: do you mind if i -- >> try it. when we taste these, we don't toast them or put cream cheese on. they're just bagels. you want to get flavor of the bagel. >> arthel: this is third? n this is third. this is the third out of 12. >> arthel: from costco? >> from costco. >> arthel: this one here? >> th...