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Be friends. and he um what was remarkable, friendor instance, e eve of saddam hussein s invasion of kuwait in august 1991, powell had my wife elsa walsh and i to quarter six where the chairman of the joint chiefs resides. and it was a dinner. and here, just on the saddam hussein had taken lots of people by surprise and invaded and taken over kuwait. and he talked about that. and i ll never forget, we asked him, so what what did it feel like? and he said it felt like a wet washcloth in the face. so, there was a level of candor. you never get the whole story, ....