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Fridge. >> if it comes in as a 4, this could be, you know, the whole island could be decimated. >> reporter: carolina beach is under a mandatory evacuation order, and the order is simple. leave. if you're here after 8:00 p.m. wednesday, you're on your own. at the local gas station, you find folks who are definitely out of here. >> if you don't get out, you're going to be a casualty, plain and simple. >> reporter: and you find some who still seem undecided. >> i may change my mind, but right now i'm planning on riding it out. >> got a tip in time, as cliche as it sounds, that on this particular...

Apparently going to stay. are you staying or going? >> no, we're headed out. >> reporter: wise man. especially with the little one there. >> exactly. signature here with power without five days didn't seem like a great idea. >> reporter: in a nearby garage i find friends bill and stan and they are standing and they won't be alone. how many people do you think will be staying? >> let's see, we have one, two, three, four, five. we've got -- five to six right in the cul-de-sac. they are staying. >> reporter: the guys laugh about it, but both say they are getting calls and texts from friends beggi...

>> what did it mean to return to d.c. you write about not returning often. what did it mean to return with an african american in the white house. >> i met him and talked to him spending time and he's got a sense of humor. i would joke about his golf and how bad he was and stuff. it was nice to come back and see om of t some of the guys i grew up with, a lot of them passed away. thank god i'm still here. >> i first met you and your lovely wife eileen at the stat c -- statute unveiling for bill russell. tell me about that relationship. >> when we met in college, russell was going to university ...

Being on the fence. mccain wanted to go with the regular procedure. he wants a hearing. he wants a cbo score. looks like lindsey graham is going to get him a little bit of that next week. murkowski is different. she doesn't want the big cut. looks like they are trying to give her a carve out like they did ben nelson of nebraska to get obamacare past. it would be the reverse to try to pull it back. i think she's going to be the one that's going to have the toughest time with swallowing the contents of it. mccain, what a legacy if he is the deciding vote and it's his best friends bill. >> i thin...

It was a simple point. i have had in many years in politics, had to make tough votes. and let me, as you just indicated, the times then were very, very different. we had a lot of homophobia going on. right-wing republican leadership clearly trying to push this anti-gay legislation. and it bothered me to hear secretary clinton saying, well, you know, doma, what it really was about was to prevent something even worse. that just wasn't true. it wasn't true. and i think, you know, if you hear today what many of the gay activists are saying, they will concur with me. hillary rosen, who you know. >>...