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You must stay long enough to survive your own political term. if it's one term for trump, he'll want to stay until 2020. if he gets re-elected, he wants to stay until 2024. that's the political imperative. don't be on watch when we lose. you went through this with jack kennedy, of course with w. and on through obama in iraq and afghanistan. now we have this president on watch. he doesn't want to lose while it's on his watch so he says while he's in office, this is what he said tonight, while we're there under my watch and leadership, we will prevent the takeover of the taliban of afghanistan. ...

Perspective of, oh, my god, change, it's going to mean something. whereas, for example, i run my own newsroom. it's a diverse newsroom. we are committed to reporting about the demographic change and latinos. so this kind of demographic change for us is not, oh, my god, it is who we are. and the question is, why do we as our country, why do we fear who we already are? >> tim, i will ask you that question. if you have people taking in messages from the media that say that, you know, the only time that you're talking about immigration is showing sort of frightening pictures of people coming over ...