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Than mandates we knew would get knocked down at the state level. i will just say that quick. brian, i mention as well an interesting juxtaposition in the republican party last night was the swearing in of governor youngkin in virginia. this is a man who came in, made some smart education reforms immediately. he honored martin luther king, he did a day of service and then he met with state leaders in the community. that's what my party could be, and the split screen of donald trump spouting conspiracy theories and lies and hosting fringe figures in arizona. it's a time for choosing, and the tim...

Trump should actually stay as far away from giuliani as possible. the senate should have a bust of giuliani up because he is the only man in american history responsible for two impeachments. first, of course, ukraine, and then these lies leading up to january 6th. of course, the burden falls on donald trump's shoulders solely here. but it was giuliani, the enabler, who kept feeding him these crack pot mr. pillow conspiracy theories that did really push him along. >> yeah, that is true, joe, but at the end of the day, you know, there were so many other people in trump world that enabled and ex...

>> no reason. it should happen. no reason. >> charlie, he said there is no reason. and then he walked back those comments saying that he said the opposite, no reason whatsoever for any coup in america. that is not what he said in the video. that is not at all what he said. he is a dcorated jchb. general and defended this country. that is what he has committed himself to doing. he is promoting a coup. what does this do to the republican party and democracy as a whole and elevating these fringe figures and michael flin flynn now a fringe figure? >> and this is one of the legacies of the trump pr...

Others in the mike flynn, sidney powell orbit telling the president that these audits in arizona, potentially an audit in georgia and other states could lead to his reinstatement, at least some of those folks are saying that that's something the president has been musing about to a number of allies we to. could this actually happen, could i come back to the oval office? the answer is very clearly no and most of the people around him even think that but he's going to, i guess, grasp onto hope from some of these kind of fringe figures, a lot of folks in the former president's orbit do not partic...

>> if i told -- >> if you said david bossie was being rumored as chief of staff for the white house, what would you have said? >> i would have said that's as likely as donald trump becoming president of the united states. are you crazy? he worked for dan burton, the chairman of the house oversight committee who famously shot a wat watermelon to recreate the suicide of vince foster. it was crazy town. dan burton got rid of david bossie. that's how crazy he was in those days. he was accused of altering transcripts that the committee released. these were fringe figures of fringe figures. and the ...