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And, you know, again, it's a big part of being leadership. it is kind of tough to go to people and ask for money when you've got a david duke albatross hanging around your neck. >> it doesn't sound good in any language, no matter how you said that. >> john stem, john, thank you very much: i appreciate you being here. >> good to be here. >> i will say, david duke, anybody in the news business knows, is one of those sort of fringe guys that really thrives on publicity. i think he has never not returned a press call. the press is what is his life blood. i don't know if there is congress that davi...

The whip and out in front. and, you know again, it's a big part of being leadership. it is kind of tough to go to people and ask for money when you've got a david duke albatross hanging around your neck. >> it doesn't sound good in any language, no matter how you said that. >> john stem john thank you very much: i appreciate you being here. >> good to be here. >> i will say, david duke anybody in the news business knows, is one of those sort of fringe guys that really thrives on publicity. i think he has never not returned a press call. the press is what is his life blood. i don't know if ther...