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The laws in the country that we have whether we agree or disagree with it. >> i think we saw that. a great turnout. there were some people who were here as part of the group and there were some trouble-maker too. there were people all dressed with face obscured and pushing their way through the crowds. the larger crowd could really quell the activists who were looking for trouble and because the larger number of people like the union and most people who came there were peaceful and wanted to stay that way and quite frankly, the crowd was very controlled, very few problems, the boston have a lo...

Charlottesville, what we saw in durham, north carolina, they set the law from the beginning and i commend those officers. melissa: yeah, i mean, you think that that's essentially what it was about, it was coordination between the police or is it a different group of people? i mean, obviously in this one it didn't appear to to be white -- supremacists, speakers there had not affiliation and a few of the same speakers listed that we had seen in charlottesville. those are the facts. does seem like it was a different event, certainly. >> yeah, definitely seems like a different event. you still had...

There spoke and then left so it was virtually at that point in time, there were no clashes except for these scrimmage that is we are seeing between police and the counter-protestors, this group should they just go home or just go enjoy the fine cuisine of some of the boston restaurants? >> absolutely, they made their statement. time to go home. you might have lingering troublemakers who want to inflame the fires but if you notice the police officers in the yellow green-type vests, i'm sure this is part of the police strategy. those are probably a lot of community police officers, no helmets, t...

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Counter-protestors gathered around. really an amazing sight today to see the two groups, free speech rally was far, far smaller than the enormous counterprotests that came here to boston today. counter-protestors showing up with signs, no kkk, no white supremacy, they disavowed both of those groups or organizations and also said they had nothing to do with what occurred in charlottesville, however, state leaders, were out and ready throughout this week saying that that could be a hate-filled group because of the list of speakers that they had initially invited. among those speakers, one indivi...