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Became very loyal and close to the forme first lady, melania trump, which is why some of the trump orbit reacted strongly to this book. it is not very flattering portrayal of the former first lady. then she moved to be press secretary, as you said. never took a single question. never held a formal briefing. then eventually moved back to the first lady's office. you know, a lot of these books written from trump-era advisers are certainly about reputation salvaging, of course. look, authors get paid. there's that, too. it is also made reflective of concerns about her future employment history be...

>> i haven't read any of the books, so i don't know. >> in just a moment, we'll speak with bob woodward and robert costa, as their book "peril" took center stage yesterday at the senate hearing. welcome back to "morning joe." it is wednesday, september 29th. joe is off today. katty kay of the "confidence code" is still with us. joining the conversation, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle joins us. we'll start with the tension on capitol hill, where democrats remain divided over how to move forward on two key pieces of president biden's domestic agenda. there is also growing concern about ...

Congratulations on the book. still ahead on "morning joe," what if america had learned from new york city? our next guest says much of the nation's ongoing tragedy could have been prevented. that's explained next on "morning joe." oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? so you only pay for what you need. sorry? limu, you're an animal! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ this is e new world of work. each day looks different than the last. but whatever work becomes... whether it's finding ways to help you serve your customers, orchestrat...

No te was attpting to changernfluen the process, usurp authority, or insert myself in the chain of command. >> joining us now, the journalists who broke that story of general milley and china, recounted in their new book "peril." pulitzer prize-winning editor of the "washington post" bob woodward and political reporter for the "washington post" robert costa. good to have you both back again. bob woodward, how does what we just heard during the testimony yesterday dovetail with your reporting? explain once again what exactly general milley was doing in those calls with china. >> well, they're o...

It's definitely true, and it's consistent with our reporting in the book. the idea is to avoid war, to de-conflict. if you put yourself in milley's shoes here, four days before the election, october 30th, they get intelligence that china thinks we're going to attack them. this is the worst environment for a military man.oh, my god, we're going to attack them. you might get a pearl harbor where somebody will take the first move advantage, as they call it. so he's trying to close this down. this is a crisis moment. this is a practical time when he has to talk to general lee and say, "no, no, thi...