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The pressure on him right now is enormous. he's under i think this great fear of this book coming out and what's going to happen next. it's been a horrible summer for him and it may not be a very good autumn. >> david -- >> don, can i make one more quick point about the lester holt interview? the lester holt interview stands on its own. the president's fudging comment makes no sense. you know, and it's a year-plus after he had a chance -- >> 15 months. >> -- to say, oh, he took me out of context but there's also the may 9th, 2017, letter in which president trump notified comey he was fired whe...

On its own. the president's fudging comment makes no sense. you know, and it's a year-plus after he had a chance -- >> 15 months. >> -- to say, oh, he took me out of context but there's also the may 9th, 2017, letter in which president trump notified comey he was fired where he referenced i appreciate that you told me three different times that i wasn't under investigation, but i still agree with the justice department that you've got to go. that's in a let e so i -- it's hard for the president to maintain at this point the investigation had nothing to do with comey's firing. >> joan, i got to...