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But that takes time and leadership. i think president obama has opted too often for photo ops centrism instead of the real substance of it. i think he can be faulted. i think he has been genuinely trying to reach out and met more often than not with a closed fist rather than an open hand. >> peter, you put a lot of politicians on your list. not sort of talk show hosts. do you think the politicians are really leading the charge, not the talk show types? >> they're under pressure from the talk show hosts. i think that's certainly true. the fundamental -- most important thing to understand why it...

Trying to reach out and met more often than not with a closed fist rather than an open hand. peter, you put a lot of politicians on your list, not sort of talk show hosts. do you think the politicians are really leading the charge, not the talk show types? >> under pressure from the talk show host, i think that is certainly true. the fundamental -- most important thing to understand why it has been so difficult to get things done since barack obama was elected is the fact that republicans fill bustered 80% of major legislation, absolutely historically unprecedented. 19th century, filibusters h...