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Mishandled desperately, that was probably a hard thing to hear, right? and in fact, years later, after he was out of office, george w. bush conceded that that was one of the more upsetting moments in his presidency, having somebody say that particular thing about him bluntly to the american people and in a way he did not feel able to rebut or answer and did not feel like it was true but had to let it stay there. and you want to know what he did at the time, though? he did nothing in response to that. because when you're a president of the united states or you're trying to be president of the u...

Of the united states or you're trying to be president of the united states, everybody in the world knows who you are. everybody has an opinion about you. everybody will share all of their opinions about you and all sorts of different venues and it mostly, 99% of the time, will not be kind. every president we can think of has dealt with the public condemnation and people making fun of them with restraint. whether or not it actually hurts their feelings, whether or not it actually hurts them politically, when they get made fun of, when they get criticized and teased, they learn to keep their fee...

At the time, though? he did nothing in response to that. because when you're a president of the united states or you're trying to be president of the united states, everybody in the world knows who you are. everybody has an opinion about you. everybody will share all of their opinions about you and all sorts of different venues and it mostly, 99% of the time, will not be kind. every president we can think of has dealt with the public condemnation and people making fun of them with restraint. whether or not it actually hurts their feelings, whether or not it actually hurts them politically, wn ...

Ever in the newspaper. i was a young kid. probably a sophomore in high school. i thought it was amazing. such an interesting answer. that's more than 50 years ago and that feels like his philosophy was formed in high school. >> i read this story before i got in and listened to some of this tape today. this is the most honest look at him. good and bad that i have seen in print. he is talking about seeing his name in print. this is exactly who he is. not wanting to be ignored and not wanting to be slighted and not wanting to be made fun of. if howard kosel walked through the lobby and people did...

Can't beat them, go on fox news and call them a genius. >> rudy giuliani did not seem to be enjoying that. [ laughter ] >> it's the kind of thing, if you're going to go to this thing and be made fun of, you have to sit around and laugh. >> and sitting where everyone's going to see you. look, anderson, 19 days left i'm a campaign person and this -- what happened tonight is not going to move undecided voters. it's not going to engage the -- really excite the base at all. i have to say, watching this, especially donald trump's component of it, it was cringe-worthy. there were some uncomfortable m...