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Doing. >> listen, d. lemon can defend himself. he has his own feelings. this is my show. i do it my way. let's get after it now on what matters. do you believe that this is about the end or do you think there's a chance we see more indictments? >> i don't know. i do think that judge ellis and judge jackson have a very different view on the genesis of this entire russia investigation. judge ellis clearly viewed the prosecution of manafort not as a sincere one, to punish someone for their wrongdoing but as a mechanism to try to get to president trump. judge jackson -- >> hold on a second b. hold...

This is my show. i do it my way. let's get after it now on what matters. do you believe that this is about the end or do you think there's a chance we see more indictments? >> i don't know. i do think that judge ellis and judge jackson have a very different view on the genesis of this entire russia investigation. judge ellis clearly viewed the prosecution of manafort not as a sincere one, to punish someone for their wrongdoing but as a mechanism to try to get to president trump. judge jackson -- >> hold on a second. hold on a second. i understand what you're pointing to in the rhetoric of the ...