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>> because that country's go bust then? how does this work? >> now in europe, they talk about austerity is the path. this is the way to do it. well, maybe not. now, it's well, we've got to talk about growth. but they talk about that in the abstract like the way my kid will talk about practicing piano five hours a day. >> is the prerequisite to that a functioning capital market? in other words, if you don't have a functioning debt market, a functioning tax and banking system, isn't it much more difficult? isn't that why they did the marshall plan? isn't that why after the civil war, they did bo...

The legacy health care apparatus has got a stranglehold on the policy making apparatus, which is basically depriving not only of the start-ups and solutions, but the jobs that would come with it. >> i absolutely think that's exactly right. especially when you look at the influence of corporate money in washington and the power of lobbyists and so on, i certainly think that's got to be part of the problem. i guess, when you look at the american jobs market at the moment, it's a bit like a crime scene. you're piecing together the bits of evidence. there's not obviously one clear problem, but as ...

Policy making apparatus, which is basically depriving not only of the start-ups and solutions, but the jobs that would come with it. >> i absolutely think that's exactly right. especially when you look at the influence of corporate money in washington and the power of lobbyists and so on, i certainly think that's got to be part of the problem. i guess, when you look at the american jobs market at the moment, it's a bit like a crime scene. you're piecing together the bits of evidence. there's not obviously one clear problem, but as you say, that's certainly got to be part of it, i think. i mean...

Extent. fundament atherley looking towards next year, there will be a fallout, anti-incumbenty is fever? some of these politicians will be suffering. very, very short term that we're talking about. >> tragically it's the american people and american business and investors who do not have a functioning capital market to engage in, american labor and individuals who can't find jobs, and the nation as a whole who sits with a apparatus of health care, energy and education that dates back to dwight eisenhower. embarrassing. we spend too much time being embarrassed about these things, something a li...

Evaluating it from many different angles, but in truth before we write a check we're looking at the exit. that's what we're in business for. last year we took two countries public in tel aviv and had a wonderful exit to one company and sold to an american company and the exit is typically in the u.s. where the acquirers are. it remains, in spite of the economies, a great place to do business. >> we talk on this show and the american political media in general and even the financial media will blatter on about greece and the debt crisis and what will they do? at the end of the day what you need...