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Systems. it's both. maria: so in terms of allocating capital toward defense, is that in jeopardy in any way as you look to fund the government til september? >> that has to be an absolute priority. i mean, that's what we're talking about when we talk about border security, supporting our military, supporting, you know, our law enforcement. those are fundamentals to keeping our country and our people safe. that's got to be an absolute priority. maria: senator, let me end where i began, and that is on this plan from the president. what do you expect republicans are going to have to give on in or...

But we've got to have border security which includes funding for the wall, and that's something they have voted for before. that is just common sense part of national security, border security. maria: okay. so let me ask you what the justification would be in terms of not providing the money for border security given that all of these things have already been thicks that they've -- things that they voted on and, frankly, there's already a border wall in nancy pelosi's state, which we're going to talk about with congresswoman debbie dingell right after we discuss this. so tell me your thinking ...

Doesn't mean we're fractured and that everybody is split apart, it just means that we need to get this done -- maria: right. >> and, you know, real quickly, i think that there's ways to do that. so if we all know that we want to do something about daca, we all know that we immediately want to open up our government, then we know that the problem is border security. so let's sit down. maybe we need a panel that both sides agree upon that would determine what the border security would look like, and then we move forward. maria: right, because the truth is, congressman, there are some fractures w...

But we've got to have border security which includes funding for the wall, and that's something they have voted for before. that is just common sense part of national security, border security. maria: okay. so let me ask you what the justification would be in terms of not providing the money for border security given that all of these things have already been thicks that they've -- things that they voted on and, frankly, there's already a border wall in nancy pelosi's state, which we're going to talk about with congresswoman debbie dingell right after we discuss this. so tell me your thinking ...

That simplify your experience. my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. ♪ ♪ maria: and we're back with congresswoman debbie dingell. congresswoman, i want you to talk to me a bit about why the speaker and your colleagues are so against some kind of fencing or barrier on our southern border. in fact, nancy pelosi has a border wall right in her own state. we're going to look at this map right here of tijuana and the wall that separates tijuana and san diego. you've got about three million people in tijuana and three millio...