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Ability to develop a nuclear weapon. what negotiation with pyongyang, with the north koreans, would serve that purpose? if you don't have a worldwide sanctions against them with the chinese involved cutting them off from any economic life, what do you do to stop them? you squeeze them, you squeeze them, you squeeze them, then what do you do? >> right. let me back up a second, when you talk about the sanctions on the iran deal, fine, except remember that we're also -- they also have so much money now and they're funding groups like hezbollah. in other words -- >> okay. >> -- it's not just as si...

Month. now, both sides have admitted this is fragile, but when you look at the battlefield right now, the momentum is with the syrian regime and the russians. after taking aleppo, they have control over the major cities in the country on the western side. so the rebels more focused in the countryside. they have been on the defensive. so it seems like for the rebels a good time to negotiate, especially for the russian side, as they are in a position of power. >> right. so what could derail this ceasefire, ian? >> reporter: a lot of different things could derail it, natalie. first, you just have...

>> you're friend bibi's been talking about iran getting a bomb since 1992. in 2006 he said they'll be building 25 bombs by the end of the decade. are they? no. >> you don't have any concerns at all about sitting down -- by the way, there's a big difference between the cold war and the russians that had nuclear weapons and america paving the way for them to get nuclear weapons considering i would argue that before any negotiations take place, pat i'm not against negotiations. but first you have to change your behavior. stop being a state sponsor of terror. stop fighting proxy wars. stop funding...

Your behavior. stop being a state sponsor of terror. stop fighting proxy wars. stop funding groups like hezbollah and other groups. how's that? >> sean. >> pat. >> in syria in iraq okay, the iranians and their allies, hezbollah, the shiite militia who are a dreadful bunch, assad, are fighting isis. they are fighting al qaeda. the houthi rebels in yemen are fighting isis in al qaeda? >> -- >> who are they killing, sean? they are killing our enemies. they are killing our enemies. >> okay. and then we're also fighting against them in yemen with the saudis. so explain that logic to me. >> you tell...

>> a lot of people are talking about they play both side. you look at sunni arab states who are actually, have connected the ambassador, that country out of their countries, because they have been such big supporters of terrorism across the middle east. why is the united states a bit more reserved in our approach towards qatar and their funding groups across the middle east? >> first, joe, what we saw yesterday is important. there undoubtedly have been tensions among the region. >> you've had concerns, obviously in. >> we had concerns about this tension between the bulk of our friends and part...