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The gun laws. is the breakdown of the bureaucracy a meaningful contributor to the problem, or just big governments and it won't matter all that much. >> i think the degradation of the atf matters. and particularly if the new proposals are put in, you need the atf to go after the enforcement of them. the research, of course, is a much longer fuse issue. and i think that is more good government issue. it is just absurd to have ignorant congressmen deciding the research that should be done. right? that ought to be left to research agencies. i am not particularly a fan of some of the research engi...

To the centers for disease control, which used to do research on gun violence and now are not allowed to, that are sort of involved in enforcing the gun laws. is the breakdown of the bureaucracy a meaningful contributor to the problem, or just big governments and it won't matter all that much. >> i think the degradation of the atf matters. and particularly if the new proposals are put in, you need the atf to go after the enforcement of them. the research, of course, is a much longer fuse issue. and i think that is more good government issue. it is just absurd to have ignorant congressmen decid...

Jenna: an investigation is underway today after an explosion during a training exercise kills at least seven u.s. marines. the caveat there, at least. we're still watching as people recover in the hospital. hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. investigators are to figure out what caused a mortar shell to go off as it was being loaded. the tragic accident happening at a base in hawthorne, nevada monday night sending shrapnel into troops that were there from camp lejeune, north carolina. officials say the pentagon is halting the use of the weapons until investigators can determine t...