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All of those kinds of questions and like you were talking about, they have these different ideas how to get around from having the president actually have to sit down and have face-to-face conversation with either robert mueller or people who are working for him. >> i know that there is always some flexibility around the logistics of these. when george w. bush and dick cheney had to speak with investigators, it was interesting where there wouldn't be a transcript and we remember the video taped deposition of president clinton. now that we're seeing in the press the negotiating gambits from the...

Released. senators that seen the transcripts because they are on the committee said there wouldn't be harm caused. it wouldn't interfere with anything with on going investigations but for some reason, senator grassly won't do it. despite what he told constituents in august, today he insisted no, he won't allow that transcript to be released. you know when it was the pentagon papers in 1971, those were secret defense department documents that had been spirited out of the pentagon by somebody that wanted the public to see them. that is how the public got that information. administration went cra...

About them is true but a bunch of what is in the dossier has been proven out over time and importantly, the company that commissioned it and paid for the research and hired christopher steele to do it, they say and they know more about it than anybody, they say they stand by what is in that report. all this criticism, months of criticism, republicans going after it with everything they have, the firm that commissioned that report says we stand by it. don't you want to know on what basis they stand by it? how can they think with all of these attacks they are still okay with it? why? ultimately,...

Concealed from the people. you don't get access to documents. he said what better example than the pentagon papers which tells of decades of american action toward vietnam, a lot of lies, a lot of mistakes. at the moment that gravel went before his buildings and grounds subcommittee and you're right, it's a really funny story. that was the only way at that moment it seemed as if there might be an official channel for the pentagon papers to become public. as it happened, shortly after he did that, the supreme court ruled 9-3 that the pentagon papers had to be released, nixon administration coul...