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The language of recidivism and it seems to have sort of two purposes and i wonder your thoughts on this. one, to see if there were more than just one wing person for her in the republican party, if she can awake any other republicans from their stupor. to understand that this is a clear and present danger for 2024, not just about looking back, and to gird, perhaps, some of her fellow committee members on the other side of the aisle for what could become some pretty tough political fights in the months ahead. >> well, i think the latter is certainly true. i mean, she knows the political costs o...

She has to make this fight for the future of the republican party. there's no other place in which it's that clear. she's got a trump-endorsed opponent. she is a target of the former president day after day after day so she's willing to have that battle and i think the warning part to the committee is a very good point. as to waking up fellow republicans, i don't have -- i don't have good news for you on that topic. i mean, you know, talking to republican senators over the last couple days, since the former president's comments at that rally, like, there's not a sudden awareness that, oh my go...

Contributor and the former republican, the former republican strategist, steve schmidt is here. garrett, you talked to liz cheney today. tell us about it. >> well, i interviewed liz cheney and every question i asked her, she kept coming back to the same point that she wanted to make over and over again, which is, he would do it again. i thought it was interesting that's how your interview with congresswoman luria concluded too because i think cheney has been looking a step ahead in this process the whole time and it's not so much when you interview her that she's thinking about the details of ...

And i think that's why we heard her keep coming back to these same key points about, he's going to keep doing this unless we, in that case, meaning the committee and republicans, decide it's not acceptable to us. >> garrett, i believe we need to throw to her sound. let me throw to your interview. >> look, we are very focused at the select committee on a whole range of potential legislative proposals. i think it's very important, though, for the american people to recognize and understand what we know and what the president, the former president himself is saying about his intentions, what his ...

Good. that means you've stood up for something sometime in your life. we're back with garrett, sam, and steve. you know, sam, do republicans risk sort of protesting a little too much if they're so sure they're going to take over and they're so sure no one did anything wrong, why are they hiring lawyers? why not go sit down and say, yeah, i'll testify, put me on at 9:00 p.m.? >> well, first off, let me just say the point i was about to make before my internet gave out was so poignant that it probably could have won the show an emmy. >> you get a do-over, tv in the age of zoom. you can make your...