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Reporter. She is the coauthor of our exclusive nbc news report from just last night on Robert Mueller asking witnesses if trump knew with these hacked democratic emails before they were released. Also back with us, jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon. And we welcome back to the program, cynthia alneya, a federal prosecutor and a Justice Department veteran. Welcome to you all. Carol, about tonights story, what is its central impact the your view . Well, as you mentioned, this hacking and leaking strategically is the worst part. So this is significant in the sense we knew ...

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Chapter one was the bots. chapter two is the whole story and the e-mails. that at some point down the line, he has to get to the important question about whether any americans were involved. in the meantime, he has all these little sub chamts in his story. different people pleading guilty and being forced to plead guilty. >> how will this ratchet up the seriousness? >> if you think about the propaganda, the subject of the indictment with weeks ago, and now the hacking and leaking was the potential future set of charges. in the propaganda, the trump team could say we were merely passive benefic...

Bots and that role of spreading fake information and helping the trump campaign. this will be the second story. whether he does it through this indictment now or he does it somewhere down the line, he has to tell the story of how the russians stole this information and how it eventually got out. it makes sense to me that chapter one was the bots. chapter two is the whole story and the e-mails. and that at some point down the line, he has to also get to the important question about whether or not any americans were involved. in the meantime, he has all these little sub chapters in his story. di...