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Conversation about the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the larger reconciliation bill, what you've probably heard about is how much these bills cost and what certain politicians in particular are willing to spend. what you're not hearing enough about is what's actually in these bills and what they mean for you. because here is the reality. this debate isn't about numbers. the debate is about what policies you, the american people believe should become law, and therefore are worth spending money on. and it so happens that the things in both of these bills are things joe biden campaigned on, ...

You might be able to run on inequality. you can run on character. there are lots of things to run on. do you think the public is willing to vote on the economic issue given where we are today? >> you know, it all depends on their personal circumstances. if they feel like they're doing a lot better, it is probably hard. a lot of the american people don't feel that way. if you travel around small towns in this country, which are shrinking, you know, their populations are shrinking, they're aging, not a lot of jobs, the president hasn't done anything for those communities. >> andrew, that is what...

To stay with your baseball analogy, steinbrenner actually led the yankees, but the coaches on the field managed the team and they got it done. you know, you had on the vicar of politics and the white house, pat buchanan and he laid it out perfectly. this is about some order, some discipline, and a clear understanding that we're -- that they're there to, in fact, carry out the agenda that the president won on. there's not going to be any contest between john and the president. john is very comfortable as the general. he understands that his job is to keep the herd moving west and on message. ne...

They control the house and the senate and the white house and can't seem to get the program through. that's not the fault of the evil democrats or the lying media. they have to get that going and some of this is what the president chooses to focus on and focus our attention on. it's why tweeting tomorrow live tweeting that hearing is a disaster for donald trump. those voters, they hope he's okay on russia and didn't collude and steal the election, but they really want jobs, better healthcare, a better way of life, someone -- >> the things the president won on. >> -- someone to tackle this opio...

Those voters, they hope he's okay on russia and didn't collude and tale the election and really want jobs, better health care an better way of life, some -- >> the things the president won on. >> opioid crisis. people dying before their time. he went out and campaigned style rally this week and good. good for him. but he's got to find a way to pull himself out of himself and that's a tough thing to ask of a narcissist. >> fair to blame that it's the president who has to pull himself out of himself? >> yes. >> it is? you're saying that -- in the past the example of bill clinton you worked for t...