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We could begin to deliver assurances that he in return asked for. so i think we were having a real conversation where there was real understanding between the two of us. it's what caused me to recommend to the president that i thought the time would in fact permit us to have a real opportunity to do something historic. >> sue. >> i think it was all the same and pompeo did meet with kim jong-un twice. again, i think north korea was not intending to scrap this meeting. it will be interesting to see how north korea reacts. i think there was a chance to send a message that the libya model is not a...

Does not speak out of school. he does not miss speak. he prepares for any interviews he does. this was not an off the cuff remarks. these remarks about libya by bolton and pence were conscious decisions to make those. you get to this point it is fair for the north koreans to say that model doesn't work for us so i don't this can we want to engage in this. it was a strategic decision made somehow. >> the administration can't get its talking point right whether talking about libya 2003 or 2011. in 2003 it was a good model. 2011 is not something that kim jong-un wants to see replicated when moamm...

Meeting. right? because they didn't think that trump was actually going to scrap the meeting. i think they were just showing their irritation with all this talk coming out of washington about libya model, because they hate that. it is gadhafi. whenever they say, hear libya, they think of gadhafi. and all this stuff. they were just showing their irritation. i don't think they met for this meeting to be canceled. so i think they were taken aback by it. i don't think they'll necessarily return to provocations like missile testing. they just dismantled their nuclear test site and i don't think the...

He wants diplomacy, it's the other guy that doesn't. isn't that the place you want to be in negotiations? >> he's gotten praise from even his democratic critics for pursuing democracy. he's gotten high marks from the public in polls for going this route. the question is where was the preparation on the substantive end. have they thought about how much uranium would they be allowed to enrich, what would the inspections look like, would they get rid of all their nukes immediately? and political and diplomatic side what was the strategy. are you going to have john bolton go out and say all or not...

Korea, kim jong-un, and president trump. but from the north korean perspective, they have said publicly that they will walk away if they don't like what they're seeing and hearing out of the united states and south korea. frankly, they're not too happy with what they're seeing and hearing. there are the joint military exercises happening on the southern side of the peninsula including fire jets and bombing runs, the kind of thing that north korea views as a dress rehearsal for an invasion. the north koreans said they don't think that activity is appropriate ahead of potential peace talks betwe...