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Because democrats aren't too happy with how he didn't give that to elizabeth warren in any way that was going to work. you know, he hasn't been sounding like elizabeth warren. so he's trying to do this kind of two-step where he's saying, yes, we're going to crack down on the banks and yes, we're going to make sure this consumer protection agency finally, finally happens. but that also reminds people that he -- is seen to have protected the banks and not moved quickly enough on that in the past. >> although his language about the banks was very, very firm yesterday. >> yes, it was. >> just, his...

Other than republicans -- >> nobody is going to head the bureau as a galvanizing figure on the right, i don't think he's going to be confirmed, i don't think that's going to happen. that was my exception to the question that is the engine to the consumer financial protection. they don't want to appoint anyone to head that agency and i think they now see this opening as the president gets sterner with his language, they see an opening to court the financial class. the president in the past hasn't been successful on that. and they'll continue to stall and block the appointment in the future. >> ...

Barrac barracks, hostile to the idea that their people are entitled to a new world and a new culture. >> as you know, wael ghonim the google executive has become a rock star. he's also attractively a reluctant hero, but do you think he could become a galvanizing figure for this movement? >> i think this man did what he's good at. this young man provided, if you will, the new technology and he provided the stirring moment now for the egyptian people. who is going to rule egypt? we really don't know. and who will emerge from the chaos of this movement? we don't know. mubarak willed this kind of ...

Cycle, a lot of people said that these two things are really worth bringing this bill down for. chris van hollen said it's the only bill with the quid and the quo in it at the same time. so i think elizabeth warren will call them like she sees them and occasionally will make democrats uncomfortable. >> joan, will her presence in challenging some of what we're seeing as an opening shot in her challenging this bill, will she be a galvanizing figure for progressives around the country and impact 2016? >> oh, i think she definitely will. she's already a hugely galvanizing figure, reverend al. this...