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There's no way to run against the issue. >> i think this is a galvanizing issue for the democratic base. if that's enough for democrats is another -- >> democrats are in charge of congress now. what are they going to do if roe is overturned? i assume they're going to make some symbolic effort to try to codify it. >> they already have. it's not going to get through the senate in any way. i also say, if you look at any congress in the last ten years and think they have the ability, the political stability or the heft to deal with a weighty issue like abortion, i don't know what you're looking at...

Though. this is, hallie, going to be the biggest abortion case, the mississippi case, since roe v. wade. i don't feel there's a debate about whether the mississippi law will be allowed to go forward. the question is does it go forward under roe v. wade, too? >> and the political impact of whatever the decision, which we won't know for months, after the arguments happen on wednesday, what's so interesting is the question that's come up that i hear a lot which is how much of a galvanizing issue is abortion going to be. i don't have to tell you there are typical smaller but very vocal minorities ...

Infrastructure, why bring this forward? >> do you have the votes? well, we're working on it. >> that's senate speak for saying it might not happen right away, but they want to get the ball rolling. these senators believe it's not only good policy, but it is good politics given the rising public support this and the fact that support cuts across ideological and in many cases generational lines and it is not only popular among young voters and it is a turnout motivator for young voters to show up at the ballot box, craig. >> a galvanizing issue for sure, for lots of voters, young and older. sahi...

Traveling to capitol hill to meet with him to change his mind on this. from the naacp and the most prominent black voting rights groups along with the texas democratic state legislator who traveled here from texas this week and met with vice president kamala harris. there is a lot of pressure. this is going to be a galvanizing issue. so i think at the end of the day, you know, does manchin want to be a good soldier for the democratic party or continue to be the lone holdout here and perhaps stall the entire biden agenda? it's a calculus debt i think we'll see play out next week. >> yeah. well,...

Despite its many flaws, including that there's no way, there's just absolutely no physical way that they could build 450 miles of new wall before the end of next year, he's going to continue to talk about it. and as julia pointed out, this it gives democrats a very easy mark against him. well here's a thing that he said he was going to do and he hasn't done it. the president flips that and thinks that this is really a perfect issue for him because he can say, look, the democrats don't care about it. i care about it, they won't let me deliver for you. give me more chances to do that. and i will...