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Educating ourselves on this. so people are getting educated as to what exactly is the problem, diagnotes problem, help educate the public as to what exactly the fiscal problem is and then we've got work on over the course of this summer and into the fall, solutions to this problem. >> yeah. again, i guess one of the -- and this is a preemptive concern on my part, i don't have evidence for it at this point and although i've seen it in the history politically as you go for the low-hanging fruit which is some of the discretionary spending and some of the things that are easy headlines. >> small, ...

What the fiscal commission's designed do. i nake a policy of mine not to sort of get on this table talk. what's on the table, what's off of the table. >> and i don't want do that, but listen three baskets here -- austerity, taxation and game-rigging -- things like auditing the fed, mechanisms in which there are many, where risk is given to the american taxpayer and given on america's future by private businesses and in that case, financial institutions, who then take the money today and give the risk to america tomorrow. >> absolutely. absolutely. so -- so that kind of casino and then the clon...

That's equally unappealing. 14% in construction and 12% of all workers in food preparation are politicians for reasons that are fairly obvious to their own political self-interest, even if it doesn't help our country, avoiding yet another hot potato. up next, the case against goldman sachs, which has drawn a the although of response from viewers. one response -- saw your show today on goldman, you're on it. this thing stinks to high heaven. these guys make al capone look like an altar boy. can't we punish a firm like this by telling everyone who owns the stock, to sell, sell, sell now. this ...

The final 20%, $600 billion that goes to everything else you can possibly think of that the federal government does from science funding to space exploration, which we'll talk about in a little bit. to parts of education. this apparently is the problem. with us for the entire show, and i'm happy about this, i must say, from los angeles, arianna huffington, co-founder and editor in chief of the "huffington post." and from memphis for the segment, mark scoda, national spokesperson for the tea party convention. i'm as offended by the way the government spends our money as the average tea partier ...

Need it. we do means testing for poor people. why wouldn't you do means testing for rich people with something like social security. do you think a real, constructive conversation between those in the tea party who represent these values and those in the libertarian and progressive communities that share those values, that the status quo democrats and republicans are the only ones who benefit from perpetuating this game-rigging? is that dialogue possible? >> i think it's necessary. i think the problem, if you look in the poll, the three things that the tea party respondents, first of all, they...