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Committee, it was naked partisanship and here they have a committee that wanted to be bipartisan and be bicameraal and republicans would not cooperate other than adam kinzinger and liz cheney. so what do the democrats need to do. republicans are standing in the way of it and will condemn them for that. but what do democrats need to do to make sure the truth gets out? >> well i'll tell you, joe, this proceeding is unlike anything we've ever seen before. because unlike things like whether it was watergate or 9/11 or even benghazi, the hearing isn't part of the investigation. it is about conclusi...

He has been at these issues and dealing with some of these issues his entire career and it was notable to hear him offering that straight talk. some folks like michael mcfall have been eager to hear him do this. he certainly laid it out yesterday. >> that's right, nicolle. and that was really the pretty much only new thing i heard in those remarks. a lot of it was assembling things we heard before, but it jumped out at me because i had not heard that note from him telling the american people to brace themselves for what may be to come. but part of what that tells me is how seriously the admini...

Message or a winner? >> it depends, i think on like i said we are running 435 races here. and overall i think it's a winner for democrats because allow them to expand the base there are a lot of angry people across the country about what took place at the border. 2,000 kids don't have their parents right now. saw 600 rallies coast to coast where millions of americans took to the streets and said this is not okay. this is unamerican. and the poster child for this happens to be ice. and that is why we are having this conversation today. steve: capri, you get the final bite of the apple is it a l...

You. >> nice to be back, thank you. >> i talked last hour to a volunteer, a group that organizes the caravan. he was telling me all of these men, women, children are at the border in tijuana. no one's been processed, because they're being told the center is at capacity. you know, he contends the officials knew for months these migrants were coming, is that the case? the capacity reasoning? >> well, san yisidro is a businessdy port. and it's not designed for a large influx of immigrants. many travelers going through there are being screened for secondary inspection. that said, i think, maybe th...

Down the road to next year. they're running out of time. final point is that a source familiar with the meeting on the white house side tells us that the president in this meeting is telling lawmakers if you don't have a counter to the three points i just laid out, bring my proposal up as the final plan for an up or down vote. a games manship from the president. we're running out of time so you have to vote on something. number two, if house republicans vote the president's plan down and we go off the cliff the president would blame republicans and say i had a plan, the republicans couldn't pa...