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The tea party elements, the tea party nuts and one is a rabid nut, and proud of it, from the dallas tea party. philip, you are a nut. how do you feel about that? >>guest: interesting you say that i just got back from the doctor and he said i have a fever. and the only prescription is reduce government spending! >>neil: but there is building up, and they are fighting words, obviously, and other tea partiers do not like the way they are being treated by establishment republicans. it is hardly a full out war but getting chose to one, isn't it? >>guest: liberals, that is what they do, call names. ...

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Rabid and so extreme about calling our government expenditures do not exceed the revenue. that is what we advocate. and if sean penn or rosie does not like me or the tea party movement, it won't barry me too much. >>neil: so, sean penn and rosie do not like tea party movement. i want to ask you about the debt limit because that started it, the fears that we will not raise it, and because we certainly, they argue, do not have enough time to cut the spending, so, we are going to be up against the wall and a big old credit limit in a couple of minutes of months, maybe four months and we will have...

Have made a radical change and we will take you up on it and we think you are right but we will do what you suggested, make him say, why, that things are so different that it is rhetoric, doesn't matter now what he says would be the catastrophic moment today. >>neil: it is in the book, he did that because he knew it would have no chance of passing. >>guest: that shows not just failure of leadership, that shows, really, almost a sense of contemptous of the office he held. every word that we utter we shall be hell accountable. and that's one of the cases. >>neil: governor, what do you make of th...

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