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Wars. it's kind of like the hatfields and mccoys. it is you know, everyone's calling them gangs, and i appreciate steve, billy, and terry saying that but it's more the clubs we're talking about now are more organized. so they're organizations. when you say gang ss, you think of small street thugs. these are organizations. they're not just gangs. >> you call them -- you said you think of small street thugs, most everyone i know i have heard the media call these guys thugs. do you consider them thugs? >> well you know, no i don't car them thugs. i mean there's some morality in them. the shoot-ou...
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