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>> huge. >> that's right. i understand the reaction, it is a visceral one. when you think deeply, put the vengeance issue aside, you need to look at this. i am a former juvenile court probation officer, served on the bench, i understand, if you can save the life of a young person, try to rehabilitate them, and i think that's what was going on. that doesn't make him accountable. i am in agreement on one thing, marty, that is there is no such thing as affluenza. it is like poor fluenza. the fact children don't have valleys, frankly, they have to be accountable. i don't agree with the resolution,...

If he had been a juvenile, once he turns 18 two years from now, he could be out without that legal overhang. >> that's the crux of what the defense argued. you give him 10 or 20 years in prison, in two years, he is eligible for parole. that means he is eligible. doesn't mean he will get it. listen, this is really an outrageous resolution here for a young man, three times the blood alcohol, seven kids in the car, four children death, seven injuries, it is outrageous. the judge blew the deal here. i don't know what she was doing. to try to prevent him from associating with his family -- >> what ...

Be appealed. that's not right. >> it is going to be. >> court can maintain jurisdiction. that's the question. what's the alternative to this? >> i think the judge overstepped bounds. >> the judge is retiring. but she should have -- >> the judge is retiring. >> you can't make believe affluenza defense, what is that? it is preposterous. what is that? that's garbage. that's garbage defense. >> maybe the judge got a few dollars in this case, we don't know what happened here, this is ridiculous. >> my goodness. >> how could you claim the judge got paid off here. >> i don't know, i say perhaps. you ...

Would ask the jury to strike all testimony from this psychologist. affluenza is not a medical term, it is a made up fiction that was used in this case. judge gene boyd got a case of dumb ass affluenza for dr. miller. this is preposterous, marty. can you imagine if i had a young, poor black boy in the bronx with a history of alcohol abuse who stole liquor that night, drove a car three times over the legal limit, and killed four people, do you think that this person would get newport beach, california or would they try him as an adult and give him incarceration? >> that's a good point. >> it is ...

Pastor, stopped to help when couch's vehicle slammed into them. all four were killed. >> how many people are injured, do you know? >> one, two, three, multiple. i don't even know how many. >> multiple? >> three hours after the crash, his blood alcohol was .24, three times the legal limit in texas. the term affluenza came from a psychologist put on the stand by the defense who reportedly said couch was brought up to spend money instead of saying sorry if he hurt someone, and that he never learned that sometimes you don't get your way. the judge opted for probation and therapy over prison time. ...