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Like our ntsb validated inmatsat ping data and maylay radar tapes? and i want to pose that one to patrick smith. what's the possibility about that? chad mentioned that and he said we need to get the other ping information from them. >> yeah, we're getting all sorts of garbled information, unconfirmed information. i think it goes without saying that everything needs to be put on the table and vetted a little more carefully before we have a stronger against of what happened. meanwhile, to back up a minute, i'm going to side with richard on that last argument about global air safety. >> you're no...

Change over the acars system. how do we know this, don? because of the 12 minutes. remember, this is a timeline business. at 1:19 there was the last "all right, good night." go back 12 minutes and we're at 1:07 or earlier and that's when we got the last acars messages. so that, i'm guessing, is how they knew about this reprogramming. if the report is correct. but i want to emphasize. >> all right. >> we need official confirmation about the reprogramming. >> all right. more developing news. i want to get to jim sciutto now. officials reviewed the cockpit conversations today. what did they find?...

Of garbled information, unconfirmed information. i think it goes without saying that everything needs to be put on the table and vetted a little more carefully before we have a stronger against of what happened. meanwhile, to back up a minute, i'm going to side with richard on that last argument about global air safety. >> you're not going to win, arthur, you're not going to win. >> it's safe to say that all global carriers are astonishingly safe. you start playing that game, compare country to country and carrier to carrier, it's an academic discussion. really, all carriers are safe. >> we'll...