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How big is too big? nobody likes excessive big. the other issue is and hillary clinton is quite right, working with some very thoughtful people, like gary gaessler, who is the best regulator, a lobbyist for tough reform at the commodities futures trading division, you've got to get specific. and you do have the non-bank, the shadow banks and simply breaking up morgan stanley or the bank of america isn't going to do anything, literally not anything to restrain shadow banking, which is why secretary clinton is very specific about what to do about it. >> let me ask you this. part of the context o...

How big is too big? nobody likes excessive big. the other issue is and hillary clinton is quite right, working with some very thoughtful people, like gary gaessler, who is the best regulator, a lobbyist for tough reform at the commodities futures trading division, you've got to get specific. and you do have the non-bank, the shadow banks and simply breaking up morgan stanley or the bank of america isn't going to do anything, literally not anything to restrain shadow banking, which is why secretary clinton is very specific about what to do about it. >> let me ask you this. part of the context o...

Pieces. i think frankly senator sanders is not coming out with what is important. how big is too big? nobody likes excessive big. the other issue is and hillary clinton is quite right, working with some very thoughtful people, like gary gaessler, who is the best regulator, a lobbyist for tough reform at the commodities futures trading division, you've got to get specific. and you do have the non-bank, the shadow banks and simply breaking up morgan stanley or the bank of america isn't going to do anything, literally not anything to restrain shadow banking, which is why secretary clinton is very...