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Catching ron young wasn t what he said in that interview, was it? no. the big advantage to catching ron young is, he collected all our evidence for us. inside ron young s apartment in storage locker, investigators found a computer with emails, fedex receipts from aspen and a stash of audiotaped that young had apparently recorded in secrets in the years following the murder. conversations with none other than pam phillips. the computer and the tapes turned out to be the gold mine. investigators began to play tape after tape. looking for anything that would shed light on the investigation. and on those tapes, they heard ron young threatening pam. there s just plenty of stuff that i could literally dig out of the ground. and you re a fried duck. and mysterious conversations about banks in money. i can t deal with this. i can t. i d rather die. then what? then sit here and deal with ....
Charge either ron young or pam phillips with murder. why do you think prosecutors didn t want to bring a case? i don t know if there was an official reason, or if it was a reluctance on just the sheer size of the case. how big this case was, would it be a career ender case? so. no one ever gave me a solid answer. frustrating? a little bit yes. but the civil suit change things. prosecutors decided, it was time to move. you think the wrongful death suit is sort of what guilted prosecutors into going forward? or it showed them how valid the case was. nearly one year after the civil suit was filed in october, 2008. ron young who was out of prison for serving ten less on gun charges, was re-arrested in california. this time, for the murder of gary triano. it ron young was flown back to tucson, lupita murillo is one of the people who like to greet visitors at the airport. good to be back in tucson, ....
well, it s been a long time. since he was doing work for me. and pam denied ever having a romantic relationship with ron. and you never were boyfriend girlfriend? never had an affair? no, no. in my opinion, she minimized it. she s saying, he s just the person that did some work for me, i didn t see him in months. now a guy i was involved with? no. not a guy who i refused to sign the complaint down with the cops came? correct. but despite pam s startling reaction to the question to the ron young issue, the cops had nothing on her. nothing placing them in tucson on the day of the murder. and nothing connecting either one of them to the bomb that killed gary triano. after three interviews, other than this thing with ron young, and we didn t have him to talk to, there wasn t anything that i thought that ....
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so he s blackmailing, her even though she d into anything wrong? she did not do anything wrong. she was concerned about her reputation, because reputation is everything in the business that she did. okay, let s follow that out, even though she hadn t committed any crime, even though she didn t hire ron young or anyone else to kill her husband, she couldn t go to the police when she got extorted? do you know how many people don t go to the police when they are extorted. somebody threatens to frames you for a murder i had nothing to do with, it read the police is the first phone call i m making. there are many, many people who get extorted, blackmailed, and they basically just want to make the problem go away. and so rather than go to the police, pam continued making payments to ron young. the only thing they had were those tapes, and that was it. those were the words of a person trying to get money from another person. that is it. that is not a criminal conspiracy in ....