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Economy did take a dip. obviously for a week but it sprung back. the united states seems to be able to weather these storms. now are we kicking the can down the road? all it takes is for an irma to go right through miami beach and shutdown the east coast. shutdown the electrical grid. all it takes is you no one nuke to actually hit japan and we're going to talk later about the debt. that's the other can, so i think always think the united states economy is strong. i guess in the back of my mind maybe like jonas, i'm always waiting for the big one but until then it hurts to be out of the market...

Been worse and now we'll see spending on infrastructure that has to be done now people are doing better than we expected them to. i think they're pricing and now tax reform seems like they're getting their act together on that. my big concern is that what happens if something does happen with north korea? what happens if tax reform doesn't get done? what if grid lock continues to move forward? i'm optimistic because we're see ing republicans and democrats starting to have conversations and compromise but if it doesn't happen i'm afraid the market is going to soften. >> dagen: jonas, despite al...

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Everything will be hunky-dory. >> it's not. >> one at a time, guys. go ahead, gary. finish. >> he's not saying anything particularly controversial. tax reform is something a lot of people would like. lowering kormt taxes while, you know,ing to something with repatriating foreign earnings. these are subs we've been discussing for years. >> we got nowhere with him. if they're no big deal, why. >> in its schismest form it's 2% measly growth right now goes up to 4%, the deficits will come down and government will have plenty to spend. >> gary, you're not going to get that just by saying let's do a...

Multiyear expansion. these are good things. >> the slowest expansion in 75 years. >> no argument, but to charlie's point, trump doesn't have a policy here. this is one of most -- >> what about lower taxes helping the economy? do you disagrier or agree with ben? >> i disagree in the sense that president obama has focused his tax increases on higher wage earners, on the richest people in society. >> but he thinks a family of four making $200,000 a year on long island is rolling in the dough. >> back to gary for a moment. adam is talking about the unemployment rate. we have to put that in perspec...