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But they believe that this is as big as watergate, and although nixon got re-elected in '72, he will come down by '74. even though this guy won in '12, he will come down by '14 because of this big gate ron mentioned. they have it in their head this is big time. >> in 1997 after bill clinton got re-elected but before lewinsky, the republicans tried to do the same thing on chinese fund-raising. remember that? they spent the better part of a year trying to turn this into a huge scandal. there's actually a little more to that one than there is to this. this is just exploiting a tragedy for politic...

Republicans seem to be really bad losers. mitt romney is apparently a bad loser. john mccain, as you said earlier, i don't think he's ever gotten over 2008. so he's looking for any opportunity he has to stick a thumb in barack obama's eye. but jonathan is completely right. he picked the wrong person here. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. but look, the republicans are facing an electoral wipeout in the last election. they still want to oppose barack obama any way they can, but what's their excuse? because the american people have now chosen barack obama over the republican guy. they ...

Over 2008. so he's looking for any opportunity he has to stick a thumb in barack obama's eye. but jonathan is completely right. he picked the wrong person here. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. but, look, the republicans are facing an electoral wipeout in the last election. they still want to oppose barack obama any way they can, but what's their excuse? because the american people have now chosen barack obama over the republican guy. so what do they do? they have to gin up a conspiracy, a scandal of some sort, something they can attach the word gate to. now it's benghazi-gate. >> r...