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What they went through. it was so horrific, just going through that gun violence and the shooting and then they stood up and speaking truth to power and brave. so i just wanted to do something. and i had -- it's such a huge problem, but i can do one thing. i can take this one gun out of commission and destroy one gun. >> did you ever shoot the ar back when you had it? >> no, i never shot the ar. >> did he tell but shooting it? >> it just his friends, they have fun shooting them, they enjoy shooting them. >> i shot one on a range once and, i mean, you cannot believe the amount of deadly force i...

Kids from parkland. it was quite a wide geographic distribution and recognizing there's a variety of different ways to die from guns. there were kids from chicago talking about the kind of murder in the streets that can can occur there randomly and otherwise. so this seems to me today to be the event that really pulled all gun violence together and put the focus on where that violence am cans from, which is guns. >> you know and i think a lot of people when they think of gun violence, they think of the mass shootings we see so highly broadcast. paddock with wihis bump stock a nickilous cruise ...

Homicide rate that we do because they're such a smaller country. in england when they put the gun law in, the murder rate actually went up. it did go down in 2010 but it went down because they started hiring more police officers. but, no, there's no place where gun laws -- 98% of the country has the most guns and that's not where the crime is occurring. it's occurring in the small cities that have illegal guns and they have gun control laws. >> we wanted to include a wide range of view and that's why we did. i don't mean this to sound harsh but a lot of time has been spent discussing everythin...

I say a frame, you flip the phrase. you're good at that. the issue is the value of this gun. you want to talk about whether there's other things in the world? yeah, traffic accidents take a lot of lives. you're reframing away. john allen? >> well, crack cocaine is fun. it doesn't necessarily mean it should be available to everyone. >> and it will kill you. >> pause right there. what you just said, one of those things applies to the ar-15s, it does kill you. the other doesn't, it is legal. >> jonathan and then rick. >> i'm not making an argument one way or the other here, i'm saying the argumen...

President trump and marco rubio trying to sound like gun control advocates. there is a change going on here. have you seen black, white, brown, male, female, gay, straight from all regions of this country affected by this issue, you see them marching in washington, the traditional way to bring attention to an issue. scores and hundreds of thousands of people, there is something very different about this time. >> i don't disagree with that. there are 3 to 5 million ar-15s in the world right now. there are millions of people like me who own firearms who don't feel like we're the bad guy. >> sure...