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For several generations, if ever. what we could do with is at least balancing the budget. now, what i believe is happening, the trajectory that we are on, if people look at the the office for responsibility�*s fiscal sustainability report, it shows a really genuinely catastrophic trajectory of debt. in the 2018 report, they said of course this level, this hundreds of percent of gdp debts, won't happen, and they said policy will have to change. but when they say "policy will have to change," what they mean is the state will default on pensions and health care and welfare and education, we'll ...

Principle of the size of the state? in other words, many conservatives would say, look, we were at war, in effect, of course we had to spend big, of course we had to borrow, of course we now have to tax, that is what you have to do in the equivalent of war. and, yet, you are concerned that borisjohnson has, i think, got addicted to the big state? there is not really any question of having small government in the uk, not in our lifetimes and not in several generations, if ever. what we could do with is at least balancing the budget. what i believe is happening, the trajectory that we are on, if...

"look, we were at war, in effect. "of course we had to spend big, of course we had to borrow, of course we now have to tax — that is what you have to do in the equivalent of war." and, yet, you are concerned that borisjohnson has, i think, got addicted to the big state? there's not really any question of having small government in the uk — not in our lifetimes and not for several generations, if ever. what we could do with is at least balancing the budget. now, what i believe is happening, the trajectory that we are on, if people look at the the office for responsibility�*s fiscal sustai...