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>> interestingly something we learned about the process from you, john, is that at least i did, that the cardinals are heavy minded now about whom to vote for but they don't have to worry about voting for themselves, right? >> exactly right. it's an aspect of the rules that a cardinal may not vote for himself. and this is part of the broader picture, which is you should not be campaigning for the papacy, not merely because it's unseemly but over the years more than one cardinal said if i guy wants this job he has no idea on earth what it's about because if you are understood the impossible exp...

And pope benedict gave that retreat and this is the man. [ speaking latin ] >> i think if you were picking a quiz bowl team in the college of cardinals ravasi is the guy you want it. he's the best read cardinals you'll find. >> he quoted amy winehouse music. >> the cardinal ravasi coughs up literal illusions, naturally and without thinking about it. >> what does that mean when someone of gee ravasi station qs someone like amy winehouse? what does it mean. >> he wanted to make sure he knew that the youth were listening to so he could understand the culture. he's ministering to the culture.