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>> right now the president is in vatican city. this is him moments ago meeting pope francis for the first time shaking hands there. the two leaders don't always see eye to eye especially when it comes to obamacare. doug luzader is live for us with what we can expect from today's historic meeting. it is historic. they may find common ground here but it is a meeting that causes areas of tension between the white house and the vatican. the pope's attention to the poor something the administration thinks dovetails with the agenda and the strategy for the democrats in the mid term em election. >> h...

Element, what kind of position does it put them in? >> well, sadly, they have nowhere to go right now. it's really unfortunate tor someone like my dad who you mentioned who has a lot of good ideas that i think he could provide to the republican party today in order to actually win a gem election. he understands the world. he's been governor of the most conservative state in the country. they're not going to people like my dad. they're not interested in the ideas. they're interested in the rhetoric. you look at bill clinton and ronald reagan for example. why did they succeed? these are both pol...

National political aspirations the governor of south carolina had. a lot of folks thought he was on a trajectory towards the white house. instead, he decides he wants to go back to congress and the question was whether, you know, republican voters there would take him back and, boy, they sure did. he made it into a runoff, and he cleared that, and here he is. and i think it's made national republicans pretty worried because they've dealt with this across the country where they've had these pyrrhic victories with these purist conservatives who win in primaries but they're compromised because of...

Pretty soon, but they need -- there are two republican parties, right? there's sort of the tea party dominated social conservative exclusionary party and then this sort of economic party that wants low taxes and low regulations and in some places those two groups overlap and in many places they don't. they don't even agree with each other and that's making that space in the middle smaller and smaller. >> is that why the republican convention was so unpleasant, because they had to meet each other, the plutocrats and the other people? i didn't know i was in that party. >> that's why the republic...

In a gem election, jeb bush, governor chris christie of new jersey, they mate maybe this isn't the best year for me for a lot of reasons. if one of them was the nominee and two bring the two wings of the party together you might have a real race but they had such a weak field. >> that would be a choice election where reasonable people would try to decide between the two candidates. this one is not a hard choice. last month when missouri senate candidate todd akin made his comments about legitimate rape, "time" wrote that the comments -- and the no-nothing idiocy of the plurality of the base. t...