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By virtue of his policies. so this for me is all about the 100%. the president can talk about the thing he would like to talk about. i am going to talk about getting america working again and help all the people of this country. >> sean: it seemed like the president had a hard time -- he kept telling you about your plan and you kept creeking him, no, there guagain, sort of moment. that's not my plan. you were saying very sprveg plans about how to increase revenues to the government and how to balance the budget, including $716 billion back into medicare. not gutting defenses. keeping tax rates...

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Provide tax relief to people in class. but i am not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high-income people. high-income people are doing just fine in this country. they will do fine whether i am president or you are. middle-income americans have been buried. they are just being crushed. i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know that and your runningmate keep saying that and it's a popular thing to say. but it's just not the case. i have five boys. i am used to people saying something that's not always true and keep repeating it and hoping that i will believe it...

$twenty1 trillion. your reaction? >> he was half right. it's about $2 trillion. but every now and then, joe is candid. he drops the veil. he was right when he aid the middle class has been buried four years. yes, they are proposing a massive tax increase. two years ago, when they said they were going to prevent a tax increase because of a slow economy, the economy is growing slower than when they said that. they don't have a record to run on. what i am excited about, last night, the american people got to see the guy i know -- a decisive, optimistic, confident leader. a person with a plan to c...

Night's debate. there were a couple of polls that said that barack obama was a 2 to 1 favorite, clearly a good night for you. what's your take? >> well, i was pleased that i had the chance to talk about my vision for america. the president was able to answer some questions that i posed that i think americans across the country have wanted to have answered. it was an evening of substance. i am happy that jim lehrer was willing to ask us our positions on issues and we could describe those. it was not a big gotcha night from the moderator, but instead, a chance for the president and i to go toe t...