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Public expression of gender variance at all. it went from bathrooms to locker rooms to sports, and now to drag and medical care, and this idea of the sort of enemy converting people into these gender deviance, one of course, we have been here, along. >> drag is probably one of the oldest traditions that exists, and children have been exposed to it for literally a millennia, so as a point of historical fact, it's a ludicrous obsession to me, like the depraved meant -- >> also going back to this sort of a spin around forever, the laws that we are now seeing that proposed to criminalize drag are ...

>> of this year. >> i have to say, this is the inescapable context, this is particularly. to talk about politics, but also, this chase, for a second, maybe i'm naive, or wasn't paying attention, but if you want to mean 2020 and said, a year and a half from now, a big thing on the right is going to be like whipping up folks to go outside, drag branches, and you scream at people. i would have been like, what? it really -- i mean, it seems -- i don't know. it seems awful, but it seems so strange to me. i guess it's not strange? >> i think it's a both and situation. i think if you trace the rhetor...