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Experience. i understand that folks may not understand what it means to be assigned a different gender at birth and for me to be a woman now. but i do think that everyone can understand what it means to be counted out, to not be heard, to be told that we aren't who we say we are. i think that we have an issue around discussing gender in important, complex ways, that all the ways that we restrict how men are we supposed to move to world move through the world, whether they are sister trans, how women are supposed to move to the world, whether they are cis or trans -- our nonbinary community, as...

Ways, had a big head start before other folks within our community. you know? so, i think we are talking about some different things here. but i will say, i think that what i hope to impart to folks when i discussed my experience as a black trans woman, is that i understand that my experience may not be the most common experience. i understand that folks may not understand what it means to be assigned a different gender at birth and for me to be a woman now. but i do think that everyone can understand what it means to be counted out, to not be heard, to be told that we aren't who we say we are...

Respect each other and allow each other to live, love and chart our own destiny is the way that we observe. >> we are going to put an exclamation point on raquel's point right there. panel, please stick around. they're -- a one-man negative headline machine. gender experience and we have got to figure out how we respect each other and allow each other to live, love and chart our own destiny is the way that we observe. >> we are going to put an exclamation point on raquel's

People think, gender and sex are things but they aren't the exact same thing. and so the way that you are assigned at birth may be based on genitalia or whatever, it's not the same thing -- [ audio difficulty ] so on and so forth. so we're really saying that these things are more complex and it's actually not just trans people having a gender experience. everybody is having a more complicated gender experience. >> yeah. thank you so much, raquel. i appreciate you joining us. and getting your side out there. you be well. and i hope you'll come back and we'll continue these discussions. thank yo...

A fact, what do you think of that? >> i think he along with a lot of trans exclusionarily to put forth this idea that trans people are saying gender does not exist. that's completely ly not what e saying. it's more complex. they aren't the exact same thing. so the way that you are assigned at birth may be based on genital or whatever -- femininity and so on and so forth so we're really saying these things are more complex and it's actually not just trans people having a gender experience, everybody is having a more complicated gender experience. >> yeah. thank you so much. appreciate you joini...