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>> , it strikes me that carly fiorina, on the left, hillary clinton is using the gender politics. carly fiorina seems to want to push it away. is that aenol mistake? >> well, let's see what happens as things unfold. remember, were she to become the nominee, i'm sure that the fact that she was the nominee or even on the ticket would help to neutralize some of that gender factor for the democrats. but let me just interject here, eric, yes, carly fiorina lost that senate race by about ten points in california. 2010. yes, it was a solid republican year. but it was california. it's a deep blue stat...

This guy, theoretically his career is over and yet, i think there's some sense and some evidence to prove that this is kind of a theory that is accepted in some corners of the republican party, conservative circles. >> one of the factors here isn't just a gender factor. it's kind of the weirdo, nut job factor which is sort of what the democrats in chicago are trying to portray republicans in general as doing. i think akin feeds into this notion that chicago very much wants to portray nationally that the republicans are irresponsible and not fit to govern. i think in that sense that's probably ...

Program when president obama placed the call to her that has become so important in presidential politics. do you see this playing out as something that affect the gender factor in the vote, that this affects what women voters do or does this actually affect republican versus democratic politics more broadly in terms of the way it affect the perceptions of the parties in a big way? >> i think it does affect the perceptions of the parties. we certainly are seeing that in our nbc news/wall street polling a big swing in the way suburban voters, suburban republican women as well view republicans a...