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And they're not doing anything, then what? is it about the expected genera general? >> jason: he can go back and find out why they are not doing their job. >> kennedy: let me ask this. obviously, the former attorney general appointed this u.s. attorney in order to investigate. so we don't have to have another special counsel. is it so -- i don't always like to use the term "deep state," although i think there's something there -- is the department of justice protecting itself, essentially, from anything embarrassing that might come out about potential surveillance abuses? should they really be...

Under line feedbacks but more so trying to attack michael cohen's credibility. the challenge that he's running up against and i really with what jack was saying that maybe this is not the typical legal strategy for someone potentially facing indictments but what i see from the cohen's team especially now that he has guy patrolo and lanny davis, whether he wants a pardon, he's not going to go to the genera general -- he's going to oh, we are going to play this at the quarter. you got rudy giuliani, i got lanny davis and here i come and let's see what happens. that's what we are looking at right...

>> martha: russia obviously maneuvering. sergey lavrov basically blooming the united kingdom without saying as much. what do you make of that genera general? it's another staged thing by the united kingdom. >> russia is the master of misinformation. they have an entire military unit whose job it is to convince people and that happened in our election and it goes back to the soviet union days. they are masters at this. the big y, the soviet union, now russia, they invented the idea of the big lie. they're going to try to confuse the issue, they'll try to fracture the coalition. they're going to...