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we can't have these conversations without you, so i know you are juggling a lot of things. but thank you very much for making some time to talk to us. we're grateful. e time to talk to us we're grateful . ,. >>. it to -- the to -- th according to russian state media, the criminal case against yevgeny prigozhin, the head of the wagner group, a private mercenary army in russia critical to russia's ability to wage war in ukraine, will be dropped. that's what they're saying at least. and he will be an exile in belarus. so far, it is not clear if you will actually give up leadership or co...

Trash. their political pariah in the international community. the billionaires, the oligarchs can't go somewhere on the riviera anymore. so this place is a real mess. putin still has the national guard, the riot police, the fsb and the ministry interior. he took maybe 4000 people keeping him personally safe in his isolated country. so in the short run, maybe we're not going to see it collapse, but putin is clearly in a weakened state, and that's good news for the west and good news for ukraine. and goo --ws david, go ahead. >> you asked a question that i think general mccaffrey really took wel...

Questions here, whether or not the russian military or without the firepower of wagner can keep off this very focused counter offensive that has just kicked off within the last few weeks from the ukrainian military, backed by the west. and also, what does this do to the morale of the regular russian army? they have already, from the beginning, have had long standing public complaints about they're equipping, the training they're getting, now we have more and more conscripts going into ukraine, and you have to ask the question as they see this chaos between some of the country's most powerful m...

Secure the streets of kyiv, it will also be massive demonstrations. millions of ukrainians fleeing into the nato nations and appearing all across europe. it will be an utter disaster. there will be played look displays of rejection by the ukrainians in the big city. they have to sort a way out of this. i don't think he thought through this. he thought the real military power, and by the way these are pretty good troops. this is good technology, well trained, disciplined forces. he thought that would give him the political victory that he needed. and at the end of the day, he actually wants to ...

Displays of rejection by the ukrainians in the big city. they have to sort a way out of this. i don't think he thought through this. he thought the real military power, and by the way these are pretty good troops. this is good technology, well trained, disciplined forces. he thought that would give him the political victory that he needed. and at the end of the day, he actually wants to get ukraine. so as an interim step, he thought he could intimidate them. and at the end of the day, he is still going to try to seize ukraine and bring it back into the folds of the russian federation. >> quite...