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Their notebooks. >> what is your level of confidence in the advisers around the president, not just their qualifications but their ability to hold back the president's impulses on something like this? >> well, i have put a lot of faith and trust in the likes of secretary mattis, secretary tillerson, general mcmaster, general kelly, who i hope and trust would be a restraining influence, should the president act impetuously on something as serious as this. >> i was able to reach out to people inside the relevant departments including the defense department tonight, and i heard genuine concern. i...

Confidence in the advisers around the president, not just their qualifications but their ability to hold back the president's impulses on something like this? >> well, i have put a lot of faith and trust in the likes of secretary mattis, secretary tillerson, general mcmaster, general kelly, who i hope and trust would be a restraining influence, should the president act impetuously on something as serious as this. >> i was able to reach out to people inside the relevant departments including the defense department tonight, and i heard genuine concern. it's not the first concern that i've heard ...

Left. >> national security adviser general h.r. mcmaster speakering earlier last month. joining us editor of the washington post and msnbc political analyst eugene robinson, he is out with a new post, we need to change the way we talk about north korea. eugene, you are pointing a finger at the generals saying they need to tone down the rhetoric. >> yeah, happy new 84, by the way. >> you too, let's hope it's a nice calm peaceful one nothing much happens. >> reporter: yeah, like that's going to happen. here's something i hope really doesn't happen. i hope this sort of standoff with north korea d...

Negotiated approach also total dede-nuclearization and second of all, generals in my experience have the best understanding of how awful war is, at times more than civilians, do you think these generals, mcmaster in particular, are not so pessimistic, degrees of optimism how a war with north korea could unfold in a way that would not be catastrophic? >> reporter: well, to your second point, that's kind of what worries me is that generals do know what war is like and they have a real understanding of what war on the korean peninsula would be like what north korea has, they could throw not just ...

He said, no, i'm being practical. i don't think i'm changing. and then he says, i'm always moving. i'm moving in both directions. which would seem to be -- maybe perhaps admission but, again, to david's point on the neediness, he says in the interview, ambassador, that he is knows the tax deal better than the greatest cpa with regard to congressmen and senators. i love them and they love me. >> yeah. it's quite an interview as you say, ari. building on david's point, this -- the other piece of this is a very transactional approach and another interview tomorrow in "the new york times" with gen...