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>> what the hell is this, a joke? >> i love his indignation. joining me is senior writer, general thrush and juliette halperin. how much political highmileage republicans really going to get out of this? >> what is the hell is that, a joke, alex? >> exactly. >> from what i'm hearing and i spoke to a couple of people before i came on, the projections are we'll see between 6 and 6.4 million enrollees, right, which in october anyone in the white house would have jumped on being a great success considering how awful the roll-out is. i think the damage has already been done. there's a pretty good p...

Allowed me to practice -- not to hand fly it so much but to do all the programming and to fly a scenario. so not only is it common, but it's actually a very good thing to do because it keeps the pilot sharp on the various features of automation. >> paul mccarthy, thank you for your time and thoughts. joining me now is senior fellow and contributing editor at "foreign policy" magazine, christian carl. thanks for joining us. you have edited a piece where a malaysian writer that says for everyone surprised at the ineptitude or chaos in the wake of this investigation, this is basically par for the...