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Genuine desire to start a real process to end this civil war and to that supporting the u.n. envoy, there is a lot of talk of the so-called geneva process but it has for years have not gone anywhere. how do you end this? even if these strikes end and chemical weapons, we don't think they will. the syrians have plenty of ways to attack their sif ycivilians. >> ambassador nikki haley is speaking right now. this is our fifth council meeting in the past week to address the situation in syria. a week has gone by in which we have talked. we have talked about the victims in duma. we talked about the ...

Do you think russian leader vladimir putin is any way chasing this morning? >> um -- obviously i don't know and it is speculation, i don't think he's scared but i think he was much more concerned now than 48 hours ago or certainly last week. i happen to believe that moving forward if we are ever going to get back to a real piece process to end this nightmare of a civil war that lasted seven years, cost hundreds of thousands of lives and 12 million refugees. if we are ever going to get that place, it is going to be after the u.s. led a western coalition strikes such as we have seen. >> i do app...

There because it was a face-saving out for the obama administration not to do anything. they were supposed to get rid of these weapons concern. paul: right. >> and then they got a foothold. so i think what the president ultimately has to do, we have to change the equation from worrying about what putin's going to do to bad guys worrying about what's america going to do. >> we have to establish leverage on the ground. if president trump -- paul: on the ground, whoa, whoa. you mean troopsesome. >> no, not necessarily troops, paul. there are lots of other things that we can do. paul: okay. >> loo...

We leave you. we keep hearing about the geneva process and keep hearing that from you and is the u.s. continuing to endorse this. why have hope for an again nevaeh -- geneva process when they've laid out iran and russia as partners at best of any kind of resolution? >> i think that's the only way forward. russia and iran have tried to build on to a process, a process that none of that's worked because iran and russia have been the garantors. but they've outstretched their hands with a clear by sponsored by the united nations, that's the geneva process. it's a political process to eventually ge...

They are just hoping that there will not be another chemical attack. and that somehow, this can come to an end and i think the majority of the syrian people outside of the loyal base of assad, they do not see the future of syria with him. the next step is, what is the next step for syria there hoping the latest involvement with the us will bring us to that conclusion. >> eventually they say that would be the geneva process. of course we should see holly, in syria this saturday afternoon, thank you. good to hear from you and take care of yourself while you're >> thank you eric. take care. >> we...