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In the '90s who had strong approval ratings with respect to the economy. >> and we all know the answer. >> that's right. >> bill clinton. let's talk also about your analysis of the electoral college. president trump could lose the popular vote by as much as 5 million voters when you look at california and new york and still win the electoral vote if you look at what could happen in north carolina, florida, new mexico, arizona. what states are you looking at? >> the big problem for democrats is that lot of them look at 2016 as a fluke and say it could not happen again. but they have a big geogr...

Or even covering up, when contacted by the white house to knock down some of the earlier stories, this is going to be broadly speaking, not specifically about congress, but broadly speaking, i think that's the best argument democrats have in 2018. >> ron, let's look ahead. what is happening with the travel ban? a month ago we heard it was a vital national security importance, it had to happen urgent urgently. >> from the white house. >> from the white house. >> then we heard it would be announced, the revised plan last week, then we heard this week. then we heard it couldn't be because they di...

39/56 approve/disapprove. a job approval rating below the number he got. the partisan split is obvious. i put up the independent numbers because as independents go, so goes this trump presidency if you believe the numbers. >> this is true. although, we know that the democrats still have a geography problem. and where they are the most difficult senate seats for them to hold are in places they need to win. democrats need to win republicans, not just independents. where some of these key house races are, they need republican lts, not just independents. the pew poll thing, what depressed me the m...

Things were called southern democrats, midwestern democrats, blue dog democrats. they are gone. >> isn't that the problem? given the electoral college? >> that is the problem. so democrats have a geography problem and republicans still have a demography problem. but the geography problem means they're not back in control in the house. >> i look at this election and it's always funny, democrats have a white working class problems and it look at the popular vote thing and look at texas, and the republicans have a latino problem. both things are correct. >> well, i think what democrats will likel...

When we started in the business, there were southern democrats. there were midwestern democrats. there were blue dog democrats. they are gone. >> isn't that the problem, given the electoral problem? >> the geography problem is that they will not be in control in the house. >> i look at this election and -- republicans want to say, see, democrats have a white working class problem. i look at the popular vote thing and texas, and republicans have a latino problem. both things are correct. >> i think what democrats will likely conclude is the way they try to reach trump voters is the bernie sande...