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And equating voting and sex. >> i want to see the kid rock ad. sorry. >> george, you have done political reporting and you did it in 2004. >> no, 8. >> i'm sorry, in 2008. it seems to me that the country has changed. the democrat's conception has changed insofar as they're willing to do that ad. >> right. i grew up in the '70s and the '80s when social issues were all for the republicans and democrats tried to avoid them. it seems things have turned. now democrats whenever the subject of women comes up they just assume that it's going to work in their favor and it often seems to. there's a gend...

>> good morning from new york, i'm chris hayes. richard kim, lynn, george pack ner from "the new yorker" magazine and sylvia. we were talking as we have ten days until the election there's still some room for some movement in the polls i think there's still some room to move for people who are undecided. we're talking about that tiny cohort, small sliver of the electorate who are undecided. we're talking about when we left what effect that has on our politics. this is something i think about a lot as someone who is quite ideological, quite committed to a very specific world view who thinks a l...

In the last few weeks tells you two things. one, that unlike 2004, this is not a, you know, divide the country into two and hope that you have 50 plus one election. that was karl rove's strategy and it worked. i don't think that's what republicans are trying to do now. they're trying to grab the middle. the other thing it tells you, republicans don't feel that their true positions have the country. george bush didn't have to conceal his positions in 2004 and he won. they have to conceal them to win. that tells you the country has moved. >> ejd did a piece in the washington post said the right ...

Been so much better than they are. >> think about the counter factual. you're saying the obama campaign should be saying, you're going to be so much better off than you are. think about that. and that's a really tough campaign to run. >> that's because the status quo is mired in this frustrating kind of low-level fever. it's not that the country is, you know, in crisis. we're not priests. we're not about to pitch over the abyss. >> right. that's why this election has been passionless and why it's being fought out over little things like what john sununu said. >> that sort of always happens. a ...

Are just cultural or social issues. when you think about that, who should pay for what, you start to get into social and cultural. >> can you control your reproductive health is an i shall issue. can you leave them your inheritance. that's interesting as well. what's interesting is we tend to overreact in american political journalism to the latest, you know, whatever happened recently. george w. bush's fairly narrow victory in 2004 if you look at it, particularly for an incumbent, was a sign that the left was dead forever. permanent republican majority and then 2006 and 2008 was, oh, man, the...